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 Everything I need to know about life I learned from having an affair
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In February 2002 I had an affair. Well, to qualify it, I was having an Internet affair for about a year before we actually met in person. Some folks don't consider the hanky panky which goes on over the Internet as "an affair". To be honest I'm not sure how to qualify it either.  I was waiting for my daughter to graduate from high school, and then I was going to leave my husband. So, although I did hide my Internet connection with this other man from him, I didn't think of the consequences.

 

A little history. Hubby and I have been married 24 years. That is the only time in that period of our marriage that I did something like this. It is not like I habitually have affairs.

 

Hubby found out in Feb of 2003. I guess I'm not the subversive type. I took a video tape of the event. There was no sexual intercourse involved. Hard to explain what it was all about, but it was incriminating enough.

 

My husband has had major self esteem issues from the beginning of our marriage due to the way he was raised by his parents. His father was an ass, and his step-father was a worse ass. When he saw the digital video on my computer, he freaked. We went to marriage counseling for eight weeks. I immediately cut all ties with the other guy. (I'd been seeing him less and less on line, and had made up my mind to cut it off anyway.)

 

So now it is nearly two years later since Hubby found out.

 

I don't want to downplay what I did. I feel a great deal of remorse for causing him pain. I feel stupid for getting involved with the other guy. I could blather on and on to that end, but only I know how I feel about it, so describing my remorse is kind of stupid.

 

During the time I was seeing this guy online, Hubby and I were going through major stress with our respective extended families. His way of dealing with stress is to be emotionally abusive. My reaction to the abuse was to take up with someone else to feel better. I know it was wrong, not only because it hurt Hubby, but also because I realize now I need to feel better about myself because IIIIIIII respect me!

 

About once a week, hubby goes into this funk. He goes over the same territory again and again. He can't believe I did that. He was trying so hard. I did everything wrong. He just can't believe I would do that to him. I've pointed out that he wasn't the sweet smelling rose he claims to be. He simply can't believe that about himself. He cannot admit he is or ever was lacking.

 

I asked him tonight if he intended on rubbing my face in my mistake the rest of my life. I'm not putting up with it. I've apologized. I've begged for forgiveness. I've begged him to move forward. I've done everything I can think of to assure him I love him and want to make our marriage strong. I've begged for marriage counseling.

 

The thing I can't understand is why it is so easy for him to find fault in others (he is SOOOO quick to point out the faults of others, not just me, and it makes others uncomfortable) yet he is incapable of admitting he should take part of the blame for the meltdown of our marriage 3 years ago.

 

I didn't realize he was mentally abusive until I went to counseling for depression. The good thing is that I've figured out how to defend myself against his attacks. The bad thing is that he isn't getting better. Sometimes when he is in a funk, he sort of scares me. It is like I'm looking at someone I don't know. On of my online female friends, who is also friends with him is afraid physically for me. I've talked about leaving him. She thinks he will try to hurt me if I do.

 

I'm at a loss. I told him tonight that he is mentally ill. I told him that he is stuck in the past, and isn't willing to move forward. He comes up with these off the wall scenarios about what he thinks happened, for example... the other guy and I got together and dissed him. I told him he is coming up with lies and believing them. It fuels the fire. I told him I want to move forward. I keep asking him what about now? How does he feel about our marriage now? He accused me of trying to cover everything over, make the past go away. If I wanted to cover everything over, why would I want to go to marriage counseling?!? I told him that I can't keep living like this. I told him if he was going to continue this rut, I was going to leave.

 

The strange thing is, he has this selective memory recently. I mean seriously, he scares me. He may remember I said it. He may not. He may remember portions of our conversation. I'm not sure.

 

I guess where I am at now is this. My husband can be a great person. We enjoy camping together. We enjoy many things together. I feel guilty for wanting to divorce him. You take this vow, you know? Maybe I'm taking it more seriously than I did before. But should it be my penance to put up with his bizarre behavior? What is in sickness and in health, when one is mentally abusing (or trying to abuse) another? Like I said, I've learned to deflect his garbage, but that doesn't make it any less stressful or wearying. Out of a week's time, we probably get two nights full sleep. He wakes up, then starts to tell me he had a bad dream (regarding the video), or he is so sad. Sometimes he doesn't say anything, he just tosses restlessly.

 

I've tried sleeping in the spare room. He comes in the middle of the night to get me.

 

I guess I have one of two options. Either see a counselor by myself, or see an attorney. Neither prospect seems palatable. I don't want to go back to the same counselor, and how exactly does one pick an attorney?

 

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Pick up the bloddy phone spyder. Sounds like you have had enough of feeling guilty and that annoys hubby. Maybe you haven't had enough of feeling guilty? (Dear Dorothy and Kenoath)  
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by Kenoath (PM , CC ) on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @ 2:10 AM




I found your blog following a link from sistermarie and felt compelled to write after reading this. Granted, this is coming from a guys point of view so bare w/me. I'm on my second marriage and have never been happier than i am now but my first wife cheated on me and I agreed to forgive her and we tried to repair the damage.....the problem was no matter how hard I tried I could not forget about it and after 3 months i told her I simply could not deal with the situation and I moved on. 3 children kind of complicated things a bit but we are both better people now that we are apart. What im saying is if he is still throwing it in your face after 3 yrs then he WILL not get over this. Everybody makes mistakes and we all have ghosts in the closet. The counseling might work and my guess is thats probably your only chance to make it work but then again if he is that abusive mentally would it be worth it? Its always hard when a relationship ends but sometimes its the right thing to do. I wish your family well and hope things get better 2006 WSOP  
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by Pokerdude (PM , CC ) on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @ 6:03 PM




Oooohhhh, this sounds so much like what happened to me, with different details. He was so irrationally jealous and disapproving of anything I wanted to do that didn't include him... although he was allowed his separate interests and outings. He was jealous of relationships I had before I even met him, and issues I thought were resolved came up over and over again, he couldn't let them go. I left him nearly 3 months ago, because my refusing to be responsible for his feelings made him angry, which escalated into... well, listen to your friend who is afraid for your safety. Wish you the best.  
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by Dazey (PM , CC ) on Thursday November 17, 2005 @ 10:51 AM




Dazey... how long were you with him?  
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by Spyder Driver (PM , CC ) on Thursday November 17, 2005 @ 9:10 PM




This is also deja vu to me. I was married for 20 years to a manipulative demeaning SOB (although I dearly loved his mother, so shouldn't say that) who always blamed me for everything. I too had an affair--and went through guilty hell over it. I finally had a nervous breakdown, tried to commit suicide and was hospitalized for a month (this while I had 2 small children 9 and 5.) It was the best thing that ever happened to me! I learned that I had value too. I was worthy, and if I had the affair, it was because it made me feel good. I desperately needed something that was lacking in my marriage. Long long story short.. my now husband and I are in the minority. We were the cheaters (he was divorced at the time--I was the evildoer) who married 19 years ago next month. We are still desperately in love and still appreciating every day we are together. I guess my point here is to tell you that sometimes you HAVE to make yourself happy. No one will do it for you. Yes you feel guilty because you have grown and your husband has not. You are not the same person, and he is trying to keep you from growing. I beg you...don't let him do that to you. I wasted 10 years of my life making that mistake.  
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by 13Ruby (PM , CC ) on Thursday November 17, 2005 @ 11:23 PM




Ruby, first of all, I love your avatar! FAR OUT! Secondly, I am hearing what you are saying. The fact is, when he isn't in his persecutor mode, he's a wonderful man. He is a great provider for his family. He just has a myriad of anxiety issues from his childhood that makes him wig out. Since I've become a strong person and have started standing up for myself, he wigs more. I honestly don't want a divorce, but the need for self preservation is strong. I wish he would get counseling for his problems. He admits he's got mental issues, but he refuses to go EVEN THOUGH his company insurance PAYS for it. He is afraid he'll be put on drugs. I've explained to him that he doesn't HAVE to take drugs just because it is prescribed. That is his patient's rights! But he should at least talk to someone about his issues. Me talking to him is like talking to a wall.  
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by Spyder Driver (PM , CC ) on Friday November 18, 2005 @ 7:24 AM




First off, bless both your hearts - - this is horrible, awful stuff to wrestle with in an intimate relationship. Getting over one partner's affair in a marriage is difficult on its own merits, but when you add suspected mental health issues......Spyder, I was on the other end of this and I understand some of what your husband has gone through. My was-band had an affair during the first year of our marriage - - I was struggling with my perceived loss of independence within the context of marriage, and my behavior certainly contributed to John looking for intimacy outside our relationship. HOWEVER, nothing excuses an affair. If something's wrong in the marriage, you deal with it within the marriage - - you don't subject your spouse to the dishonesty and loss of trust, and you don't expose your spouse to the physical repercussions of an outside tryst. John and I were so young, so lacking in coping skills - - I can see how we got to that point, the both of us, but what I couldn't see was how we were going to get beyond it. There's no timeframe for how long it's going to take someone to recover from the betrayal of an affair - - it takes as long as it takes. You're ready to let it go - - your husband isn't, probably because he wasn't the one in control of the affair or the ending of it, and because he has to imagine what happened (which can be terribly amplified). If you really do want to stay married, let him take the time he needs to regain trust in you - - be trustworthy, be patient, and try not to blame him. If he's truly mentally ill and he doesn't want to go the therapy-and-medication route, would he consider something alternative, like accupuncture or chiropracty? Men often do really well with more experiential forms of therapy, too - - Outward Bound, therapeutic ropes courses, etc. Best of luck, chica - - this is tough stuff.  
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by The Valkyrie (PM , CC ) on Monday November 21, 2005 @ 4:25 PM




Spyder, first of all, I can appreciate the fact that you've bared your soul here, and are crying out for help. And its help you truly need. Taking the role of the arm-chair psychologist, I think therapy on your own is a good idea, and if you're not comfortable going back to the same counselor, go to another. Your husband needs therapy too, but I'm not so sure its marital counseling he needs as much as therapy for his own issues which aren't allowing him to move on. He sounds narcissistic, to be honest. My own ex-husband is that way. He refuses to believe he had any part in our son's anxiety and depression, which lead to my son's attempted suicide. Through good psychiatric and psychological input, my son learned that he wasn't responsible for his father's actions or inactions. He father can "say" things all the time, but everyone knows its the ACTION that speaks louder than the words! I had a friend who dated a narcissit for almost 2 years, and he never recognized that he had any faults, and there were many times he became physically abusive. I remember one night, after we'd been out shopping together, we came back to find him drunk and she literally came running from the house, scared sh*tless, screaming for me to go, go, go, go, go! We got up the block and called the police. They came out to investigate and made him leave, but a week or so later, he was back. Through his mental abuse, my friend was convinced she was the problem more than him, and MADE him do these things. That's a classic form of abuse by the abuser - transferring the guilt. Honey, you're trying to soften the effects of his bad side, by giving us revelations of his "good side". This won't work. Faults are faults and if he's not willing to seek help, he's content to heap the blame - on you. You can't live like that. You're worth far more. Make 2 calls.  
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by Aunt Jenn (PM , CC ) on Wednesday November 23, 2005 @ 9:19 AM


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   
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